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A heartfelt comedy about making friends and overcoming social anxiety.

Production Details

Running Time:
Grade K - 7
40 min + 10min Q&A
Spring 2022
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Curriculum Connections:
Social Anxiety | Friendship
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Every day, Nicky wakes up with knots in her stomach and worries in her brain. While most kids can’t wait for recess so they can hit the playground, anxious Nicky would rather spend her time safely hidden away in the school’s sick room with her Big Book of Birds. In the sick room, Nicky can enjoy her routine in peace and quiet – but when Milo, a rambunctious boy with diabetes, comes barreling into her life, Nicky’s peace and quiet turns to chaos! At first, these polar opposites’ worlds collide, but as time goes on, cautious Nicky and adventurous Milo both come to discover they may have more to learn from each other than they think.

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Our in-person shows will only be presented if Public Health orders deem it safe to do so. Payment is not required until the date of your performance, so you can book with confidence!

2022 Creative Team

Milo - Teo Saefkow *

Nicky - Ali Watson *

Director -Jamie King

Playwright - Katey Hoffman

Stage Manager - Zoe Bellis *

Original Costume Design - Hannah Case

Costume Associate - Donnie Tejani

Set Design - Ruth Bruhn

Sound Design - Ian Tamblyn

Original Direction - Patrick McDonald

* Appears courtesy of Canadian Actor's Equity Association

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Photos of Paige Fraser and Teo Saefkow in What If by Katey Hoffman. Photos by Tim Matheson. Set and Video Design by Ruth Bruhn, Costume Design by Hannah Case.

Recent Comments
April 7, 2022

You are amazing. How did you pick the name green thumb theatre ?

Reply: Green Thumb Theatre

Thank you for your comment! The name Green Thumb Theatre was chosen back in 1975, to describe the company's goal of growing conversations about important topics!

April 4, 2022

Hi! I really liked the play "what if" ! my question is: did you ever get stage fright before?

Reply: Green Thumb Theatre

Hi Emily! We're so glad that you liked the play. Performers often feel a bit nervous before or during a performance - but they also feel so excited to get to share the story with audiences!

March 6, 2020

Hello. Today you preformed "What If" at my school. I'm wondering why Nicky’s main focus was birds? Why not cats or dogs? Also does Milo really know how to do ventriloquism?

Reply: Green Thumb Theatre

Hi Hayden! The playwright decided that Nicky would be interested in birds because it fit the introverted personality of the character. Teo, the actor that played Milo had never done ventriloquism before being cast in the show, so he had to practice a lot. We think it works well though, because both Teo and Milo are just starting to learn ventriloquism. Thanks for your questions.

March 6, 2020

Ok, so I loved the show you guys performed at my school. I have meglaphobia and pediophobia so the big penguin suit and Fred the puppet kinda freaked me out. Haha. But, I was wondering if you had a favorite scene while performing.

Reply: Green Thumb Theatre

Hi Danaya. We're so glad you enjoyed the show. We're sorry to hear that you are afraid of big objects and of dolls. That would definitely make parts of the show a little scary. Our tour manager is afraid of puppets, so she also was afraid of Frank at first, but she still loves the show! I think it would be hard for us to pick a favourite part, but I know both Paige and Teo really like performing the moments of physical comedy in the show.

March 5, 2020

Hello my name is Audrey. This is for Paige and Teo who came to my school and did the play "What If". I really loved it . Milo was very funny and I especially liked his fanny pack 😂. Paige do you like🍱?

Reply: Green Thumb Theatre

Hi Audrey. We're so happy to hear that you loved the show and Milo's fanny pack! Paige is a vegan so she doesn't like sushi, at least not sushi with fish.

February 26, 2020

Did you go to school to be actors?

Hi Susanna. Yes, both Paige and Teo went to a post secondary institution to study acting. They both went to Studio 58 at Langara College.

February 26, 2020

You did very well making the show. I really enjoyed your show.

Reply: Green Thumb Theatre

We're glad to hear that you enjoyed the show!

February 25, 2020

Did Teo the actor in this really have diabetes?

Reply: Green Thumb Theatre

Hi Wendy. Thanks for your question. No, Teo, who plays Milo in the show, does not have diabetes in real life. Both the playwright and the actor did research into what it is like to have diabetes when you are a kid.

February 25, 2020

Hi. I’m a grade 4 and I have a question. Do you guys use planes to travel? If yes, do the actors pay for their flights or does Green Thumb pay?

Reply: Green Thumb Theatre

Hi Josilyn. Thanks for your question. Most of our shows travel around the province and across the country in our Green Thumb vans. Sometimes we take planes to other parts of Canada, the US, and sometimes other places in the world. Green Thumb Theatre covers the cost of travel for our actors and stage managers. We also give them what's called a "per diem" each day, which is money outside of their regular pay cheque to cover the cost of food and hotel rooms while they are traveling.

February 20, 2020

Hi Green Thumb. Thanks for a great show. We loved it! My question is why didn't Milo put his head behind the doll to hide his lips moving?

Reply: Green Thumb Theatre

Hi Wren. We're glad you liked the show. Milo didn't hide his month behind the doll because he was practicing to be a ventriloquist. Ventriloquists are able to talk without moving their lips to make it look like their dolls/dummies are talking themselves. Milo just needs a bit more practice.

February 13, 2020

Hello Green Thumb I saw your show at Waverley Elementary School I watched it on Feb 13 2020 I watched it as a 4th grader my question is what happened at the party and at the end and also i have another are Milo and Nicky in love with each other and you might have seen me with a blue shark hoodie hope you can respond to me as soon as possible I love your show by the way 5 stars Thanks!

Reply: Green Thumb Theatre

Hi Ryan! Thanks for the 5 star review. We're so glad to hear that you enjoyed the performance. What happened at the Halloween costume parade/party is really up to your imagination, but we'd like to think that Nicky and Milo had a great time! As for Nicky and Milo being in love, we think that they are just really good friends.

February 6, 2020

Can you do another performance again some day at G.T.Cunningham Elementary please?

Reply: Green Thumb Theatre

Hi Diane! We would love to come back to G.T. Cunningham Elementary. Tell your teachers to keep an eye out for next season's brochure which will be in the mail soon. We have a brand new Elementary show touring in the fall of 2020!

January 28, 2020

Hi green thumb theatre! My name is Brady and I go to Douglas annex. My question is: how do you put your stuff on so fast? Also, I asked you a question when you came to my school (I was the first person). I liked the play. Thanks!

Reply: Green Thumb Theatre

Hi Brady! We're really happy to hear that you enjoyed the show. Thanks for your questions in person and online. The actors in WHAT IF had to practice taking their costumes on and off a lot, until it they could do it really quickly. Also, the costume designer and set designer worked really hard to make costumes, props, and a set that would be quick and easy for the actors.

December 18, 2018

Hi Green Thumb! Im Just Asking How Does The Show Go?

Reply: Green Thumb Theatre

Hi Matthew. Thanks for writing! In What If, Nicky spends most of her lunch hours in her school's sick room, because she likes to be somewhere quiet, all by herself. One day, a boy named Milo shows up in the school's sick room to take his insulin, and Nicky meets someone that's completely different from her. While Nicky is quiet, shy and careful, Milo is adventurous and loud. In the play, the two get to know each other, and find out they have a lot to learn from each other.

December 17, 2018

Hi Green Thumb! I'm Just Asking, Does One Of The Actors Have A Stomachache?

Reply: Green Thumb Theatre

Hi Matthew! Thanks for writing. In the play, the character Nicky has a stomachache, but the actor, Amber is just pretending. In real life her stomach doesn't hurt.

Sophia Janus
December 10, 2018

Hi green thumb. You came to my school today, Hillside Traditional Acadamy. in Mission. I would like to ask if the tape hurt when she took it off? Thanks Sophia

Reply: Green Thumb Theatre

Hi Sophia - Thanks for writing! We use a special kind of medical tape so that it doesn't hurt to take off. The actor playing Milo just pretends it hurts.

December 7, 2018

thanks for performing at our school today

December 7, 2018

I liked your play at Elsie Roy. it was very funny the pengiun costume was very fat and cute the person who wrote this is a kid


Thanks Liam! We're so glad you liked the show!

November 21, 2018

loved your play you put up today

Reply: Green Thumb Theatre

Thanks Jalisa! Glad you enjoyed!

November 15, 2018

How much places do you go to do shows

Reply: Green Thumb Theatre

Hi Chanpreet! Thanks for writing. Green Thumb goes all over the world with our shows. We do most of our touring throughout Canada, but we've also been to 36 states in the US, an 11 countries overseas. The show you saw is touring all over British Columbia and also had a couple of stops in Alberta too.

November 14, 2018

Is myloa in the play really diabetic type 1 when he's not acting

Reply: Green Thumb Theatre

Hi Collin! When he's not acting, Teo, who plays Milo does not really have Type 1 diabetes. There are many actors who do though!

November 14, 2018

Hi! I watched this at my school and it was AWESOME. I really liked the characters and the story's meaning. I think you should keep on doing this show. I love you and Bye! :)

Reply: Green Thumb Theatre

Hi Emily. Thank you so much for writing! We're so glad you enjoyed the show.

November 13, 2018

When you guys were little did you get nervous like Nicki in the play? sometimes I get nervouse too.

Reply: Green Thumb Theatre

Hi Madilynn! Thanks for writing. Yes, many of us at Green Thumb got nervous when we were little, and some of us still do! Getting nervous is something that happens to a lot of people, no matter how old they are. At Green Thumb we find it really helps to talk to people we trust when we're feeling nervous, so we can work through some of the "what ifs" that might be running through our minds that day.

November 13, 2018

Did your Grandma really see that special bird and did your stomach really hurt or were you just faking it? Why did the pen cross the road? Because he needed to draw a picture (hahhahaha)

Reply: Green Thumb Theatre

Hi Dane - Thanks for writing! WHAT IF is a fictional story, so Milo's Grandma is an imaginary character, not a real person. In the story though, she really does see the special bird, the Orange Crowned Warbler. In the story, Nicky's stomach hurts because she's so worked up worrying about all of her 'what ifs', so she's not faking it, but it's not happening because she is physically sick. And thank you for your funny joke! Why did the whale cross the ocean? To get to the other tide!

Iliya Wong
October 27, 2018

Why did you name the play What If?

Reply: Green Thumb Theatre

Hi Iliya! Our playwright, Katey Hoffman, named the show WHAT IF because in the play Nicky talks about all the 'what ifs' that float around in her brain when she's feeling anxious.

Iliya Wong
October 24, 2018


Reply: Green Thumb Theatre

We’re so glad you enjoyed WHAT IF. We felt really happy making the show! We had a lot of fun in rehearsals, and it’s very fun for our actors to come and do the show for kids like you all over British Columbia.

October 18, 2018

Hey Green Thumb! I watched this show on Monday at Van Horne Elementary as a grade seven and let me say I loved it! I was always interested in theatre but when I saw your performance I was mind blown. I would love to work in the showbiz one day! Do you have any idea or suggestion I can do right now to help me succeed my dream in the future? By the way, I was one of those girls who helped with carrying the stuff from the van to the gym!

Reply: Green Thumb Theatre

We’re so glad you enjoyed WHAT IF. Our company really enjoyed performing for your school. If you’re interested in becoming involved with acting, I suggest you talk to your parents about whether there are any drama classes you can get involved in in your community, whether that’s through your school, community centre, or a local arts centre. It’s a great way to get involved and start getting some experience performing.

October 10, 2018

hey i just watched a show today in captain cook elementary school and i just want to know the names (or instagram) of the young amazing actors who played nicky and milo. i loved milo's little puppet too.

Reply: Green Thumb Theatre

The two actors you saw are named Teo Saefkow and Amber Landry. I’m not sure if they’re on Instagram, but you can definitely follow Green Thumb on Instagram at @greenthumbtheatre – we hope you do!

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